Hot Dog Frankfurters Weiners Help

[wheels]

As promised an adaption of Big Guy's Hot Dog recipe using beef instead of chicken:

50% Beef
50% Pork

I use fatty pork including a small amount of jowl, and chuck steak (or similar cut)

Of meat weight:

Milk Powder 3.6%
Iced Water 10.5%
Garlic Powder 0.12%
Onion Powder 0.26%
Supaphos (site shop) 0.9%
Cure #1 - 0.22%
Seasoning Mix 1.75%

Seasoning Mix:
Salt 24gm
white pepper 7.1gm
Paprika 6.9gm
Mace 1.7gm
Mustard powder 4gm
Oregano 0.6gm

I make these as per Big Guy's instructions but smoke them for an hour or so instead of adding liquid smoke. I have finished the cooking by poaching, or in the smoker - both work fine. You could add smoke powder if you don't have a smoker.

Whilst I am not keen on adding things like supaphos, Big Guy says it's necessary in these hot dogs, hence it's use.

They're my youngest daughter's favourites.

Phil

[jamanda]

Whilst I am not keen on adding things like supaphos, Big Guy says it's necessary in these hot dogs, hence it's use.


Phil

Have you tried it without? The sales pitch for it on the site shop says it's an essential ingredient for a British banger - well I don't use anything but meat, a bit of rusk and herbs in my bangers and they are pd good.

[saucisson]

I think it would be safer if we say it's an essential ingredient for a commercial British banger...

ie if you are trying to recreate the exact texture of a particular commercial sausage.

Dave

[wheels]

Jamanda

No, I wouldn't use it in a British Sausage - nor would I use cure #1; I like to keep things simple.

However, this is an emulsified sausage and is a very 'different beast'; IMO the cure #1 is essential as I am smoking them - the ideal conditions for developing the nasties that cause botulism. It could also be said to be necessary to create that authentic hot dog colouring. The supaphos could be left out - but, according to Big Guy will not make as good a product. In the case of this sausage I'm happy to sacrifice my normal principles!

Phil

[Spuddy]

As far as I'm aware the phosphates in supaphos are an essential mineral. The same as are included in over the counter vitamin and mineral supplements. Can't be bad to use them therefore?
I read some where that many atheletes take Calcium Phosphate supplements.

[saucisson]

It is a mixture of complex sodium phosphates, so other than that it will contribute to your sodium intake it is perfectly "natural" on the: should I be worrying about additives scale...