Salami newbie question

Tips and tecniques on dryng drying, curing etc.

Postby wheels » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:04 pm

I doubt it, I think you're thinking too much about it! :lol: :lol:

I'd bet that the case hardening is almost certainly due to it drying too quickly caused either by low RH or too much air-flow. Given that you control your RH, this only leaves air-flow as the reason. (IMO)

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Postby tristar » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:36 pm

Andre,

It will improve as it ages, that is, if it gets the chance to age!!! :lol:

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Postby BriCan » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:43 am

tristar wrote:The flavours certainly do change as the salami age, but like wine, I guess they can go one way or the other!


It's like anything else, if you don't treat it right it will rear up and bite (so to speak), one has to treat them like a baby until they can stand for themselves

tristar wrote:Has anybody here had any that have worsened with ageing?



Only one problem I had was at the beginning and that was a server case of case hardening. I find the longer they are around the deeper the flavours get
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Postby BriCan » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:50 am

wheels wrote:I'd bet that the case hardening is almost certainly due to it drying too quickly caused either by low RH or too much air-flow. Given that you control your RH, this only leaves air-flow as the reason. (IMO)


RH if fine as you say, what he needs is a gentle breeze of a very low speed fan if he is using one
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Postby wheels » Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:18 pm

Yes, very gentle - around 0.5 metres per second during the drying stages.

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Postby Mrs. Northerner » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:56 am

Well, as a newbie to this, it looks awesome to me, but that just confirms how much I have to learn about curing!

In order to get my new years resolution kick started (I want to do some curing) I have jumped on the bandwagon of the Charcutepalooza challenge! It's gone viral in the states!

http://www.mrswheelbarrow.com/category/charcutepalooza-from-mrswheelbarrow-and-theyummymummy/

I've finally been able to source the ingredients I need locally thanks to the Twitter community, so away I go!
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Postby wheels » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:25 pm

Good luck with the challenge - it's a great prize.

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Postby grisell » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:44 pm

Good luck! :) Maybe I should look around to check if we have anything the like here.
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Postby Mrs. Northerner » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:46 am

Thanks guys, the prize does look good, but I don't think I am in the running, I just need the extra motivation to do things sometimes!

Grisell, I haven't read anything that says you have to be in the States to do it (I'm in Australia) you just need to sign up by the 1st February!

The fresh bacon is in the fridge, and I'm sure I'll need some advice for the other challenges so I'll keep you posted!

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Postby grisell » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:36 am

Reducing air flow and raising humididty seems to have done the trick. After one week in 80+ % RH, there is no sign of case hardening:

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That recipe from Wędliny Domowe is awesome. A keeper, for sure. Next time I will try it with even larger casings.
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Postby wheels » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:44 pm

Great Photo - have you been practising? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby grisell » Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:00 pm

Thanks! The photo was just an excuse to eat the three slices. :wink: :D
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Postby Mobilescout » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:28 pm

Grisell looks good!!
As for your question regarding aging, I've found that my dried sausages, which I vacuum pack, seem to "peak" at about 8 to 12 months. Any case hardeneing has disappeared, the centers have equalized with the rim, and the flavors seem to meld together. Then they seem to degrade slowly after that. By 18 to 24 months, they taste nothing like they did a year ago, and something resembling crystallized salt begins to form under the casing.
This year I used the spray mold for the first time, so I'm curious to see how my soppressata's come out.
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Postby Darius » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:40 pm

How are you storing/keeping them over 12-24 months?
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Postby grisell » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:55 am

Mobilescout wrote:Grisell looks good!!
As for your question regarding aging, I've found that my dried sausages, which I vacuum pack, seem to "peak" at about 8 to 12 months. Any case hardeneing has disappeared, the centers have equalized with the rim, and the flavors seem to meld together. Then they seem to degrade slowly after that. By 18 to 24 months, they taste nothing like they did a year ago, and something resembling crystallized salt begins to form under the casing.
This year I used the spray mold for the first time, so I'm curious to see how my soppressata's come out.


Don't you think that vacuum packing makes them mushy? (Especially the casings?)
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