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Sausage/Keilbasa seasoning ... help

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:25 pm
by flipper
Looking for the correct name and the name of the plant that Collethies(sp) come from. Collethies (sp) are a small brown seed used by the lithuanians to make sausage and keilbasa. It is the seed from a weed.plant that grows int he wild...

John

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:39 pm
by wheels
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Looking on google - the only spice that seems to be in all of the Lituanian recipes is Allspice. kvapusis pipiras?

Hope this helps.

Phil

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:46 pm
by flipper
I have searched google and tried different spellings, nothing... nada... zip

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:06 pm
by wheels
Yes, I found that as well!

The point I was making is that virtually all the sausage recipes online for Lithuanian Sausage only contain Allspice as the main flavour.

Maybe an email to the site owner of http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/ might provide a solution? He is a great authority on sausages from this part of the world.

Phil

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:20 pm
by saucisson
All spice is a berry about the size of a juniper berry. Having had a hunt around I think your collethies is quite likely caraway seed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caraway

Dave

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:35 pm
by wheels
FWIW this would appear to be paprastasis kmynas in Lithuanian.

Phil

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:51 pm
by saucisson
That doesn't sound much like what flipper was looking for does it, Phil. flipper do you have an idea what sort of flavour you're looking for in this spice? I see caraway, dill and mustard seed are all used in Lithuanian cooking (in that order of popularity)

Dave

Edit: I assume this is you flipper, posting elsewhere? I thought for a second I might have found an answer for you...

"flper
Looking for info on Collethies, a lithuanian spice used in sausage making; It is the seed of a local plant, I am looking for the name of the plant it comes from and the proper name of the spice; Collethies is a coal region slang;"

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:19 pm
by flipper
Yes, that was post.

I cannot explain the flavor it adds to the sausage. I made it with them and with out and there is a difference. It is not caraway, I will take a picture and post it tonight. The seeds are small, very small.. a 10lb recipe calls for 1 tbsp.

Thanks for the responses...

john

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:21 pm
by flipper
Collethies is slang and the proper name is something like siess (sp)...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:33 pm
by saucisson
Pictures would be great, I forgot to welcome you to the forum, Welcome :D

Dave

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:38 pm
by flipper
Thank you...

Alot of good info here. We make between 200-300lbs of venison sausage/Kilbo a year. Always looking for new recipes.


John

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:39 pm
by vinner
Lithuanians will also sometimes use coriander seeds in their sausages. I wonder....

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:51 pm
by wheels
The only one I can find here that looks possible is anise seed:

Any�ius, Any�inė o�ia�olė, Any�ių sėklos

Would the Any�ius be pronounces siess? And, is anise used in Lithuanian sausage?

Phil

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:29 pm
by wheels
Just to add - forum member IngredientSeller is in Lithuania may be they could help?

Phil

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:17 pm
by saucisson
Interesting, because caraway is supposed to have an anise element to it.

If I get a chance I'll bring ingredientseller's attention to this thread

Dave