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% of MSG for sausage reciepe

Postby captain wassname » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:45 pm

Hi everybody.

I am intending to use Oddleys Cumberland spice mix in a low fat sausage(sorry Oddley) and think I may need some MSG. I have spent 2 days looking on the web so please spare me the lectures.

Advice on usage rates (if you can find them) vary from 1gm to 5 gms per kilo. The best I have come up with is from this site here

http://forum.sausagemaking.org/viewtopi ... f19bde45b3

These come from sausagemaker who Im inclined to trust above the web.The usage rates in these reciepes are from 0.06% to 0.12% ie 0.6gms to 1.2gms per kilo.

I would appreciate a check on the maths and any comments re usage.

Jim
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Postby wheels » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:55 pm

Jim

I can't help on the usage - it's not something I use, but why do you think that Oddley's Cumberland blend will need it?

It's not as if Cumberland's a bland mix - it generally packs a bit of a punch when compared to other British Bangers.

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Postby johnfb » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:30 pm

I use MSG quite a lot. It always adds the extra flavour, the umami,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami
The usage rate is difficult to quantify in my opinion. In my homemade blends I usually add a 1/4 to 1/2 a teaspoon to a batch of 1 kilo. This will work out at 1 gram per kilo.
I take this based on a chinese recipe I have that stated a teaspoon in any chinese recipe is enough.
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Postby wheels » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:11 pm

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that anyone shouldn't use it, just my surprise that such a distinctive mix may need it. I could understand it for a blander mix, but am surprised that this one cannot stand the reduction in meat/fat.

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Postby johnfb » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:27 pm

I have to say that even for flavourfull recipes it always adds a certain kinda...zing! or something.
Great stuff...it's just this third arm growing out of my back that concerns me.... :lol:
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Postby wheels » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:31 pm

John

I can appreciate that - it's the Mmm... moment - unfortunately it makes my throat tingle in a not nice way (as does Marmite - that's full of natural msg).

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Postby johnfb » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:34 pm

When my nephew has anything with MSG in it he gets stars in front of his eyes and violent headaches. :cry:
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Postby captain wassname » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:43 pm

Phil.

I understand where your coming from Its just that when I made the low fat sausage it lacked a certain something (Idid use a Cumberland mix from Wesch.) So this time Im trying some additions I would appreciate a check on the math.

John. Go into a darkrened room room fora few months The pain in the brain will ease and one of the arms will drop off.
1 gm per kilo is about within what Im looking at

Many thanks : Jim
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Postby johnfb » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:49 pm

I buy all my pre-made blends from weschs, and I really like their cumberland blend. Oddleys is not that far off theirs...or is it theirs is not that far off his.
Have you tried the Wheels blend in the recipe section...this is a must try and better than most... IMHO.
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Postby captain wassname » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:38 pm

John;

Do you think if I add say 1gm Msg per kilo Ishould adjust the salt level atall

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Postby Ianinfrance » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:07 am

Hi Jim,

Do you think if I add say 1gm Msg per kilo Ishould adjust the salt level atall

I'm not John, but no. I don't think so.

What I would suggest - and this as a general rule for any sausage mix, is to make up a little patty of the sausagemeat, fry it both sides in a non stick pan, and taste it.
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Postby johnfb » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:47 am

I agree on that too. Just add the MSG and adjust nothing.
Try the pattie, your tastebuds will tell you all you need to know.
Let us know how you got on and take some pictures of your creation too...
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Postby captain wassname » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:04 pm

Thanks guys Im still waiting for other ingrediants to arrive but I will post as soon as I have completed my experiments

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Postby the chorizo kid » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:34 pm

johnfb
third arm? too bad it's ot a third leg. then i could send you all of my single socks.
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Postby johnfb » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:51 pm

:lol:
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