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Bacon-Burger Grind

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:14 pm
by JerBear
I've got a lot of bacon ends and pieces collecting in my freezer that I've been primarily using to flavor beans. I got instead to thinking about making a bacon/beef burger. I know I can find a million recipes online but I trust yous guys and was hoping to know if someone had a tried and true ratio or recipe they would share. I was thinking about either 50/50 bacon/chuck or bacon/brisket or possible thirds bacon/chuck/brisket.

Thoughts?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:21 pm
by Oddwookiee
I sell a 50-50 bacon ends & 85% lean beef trim, generally a mostly front shoulder box. I'll grind it once, put it in the mixer and add a little fine-grind black pepper & a hair of dried minced garlic to wake it up, mix it, then back through the fine plate on the grinder. It tends to move pretty well and the customers like it.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:57 pm
by JerBear
Not working in a meat shop I don't have easy access to 85% trim, would chuck be pretty close?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:06 pm
by Oddwookiee
Chuck would be about right, yes. Most of the 85% I get is big pieces of the chuck anyway.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:10 pm
by Dingo
For a spin on the bacon burger...I grind half of my bacon ends (coarse) and then fry them crispy and chill before adding to the burger mix. Comes out really nice :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:41 pm
by DanMcG
Dingo wrote:For a spin on the bacon burger...I grind half of my bacon ends (coarse) and then fry them crispy and chill before adding to the burger mix. Comes out really nice :D


Thanks for the input Dingo, I was going to do a liver and bacon sausage a couple weeks back and knew I had to precook the bacon to get that bacon flavor, but wasn't sure how it would come out. Will give it a go soon.

Re: Bacon-Burger Grind

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:15 am
by BriCan
JerBear wrote: I know I can find a million recipes online but I trust yous guys and was hoping to know if someone had a tried and true ratio or recipe they would share. I was thinking about either 50/50 bacon/chuck or bacon/brisket or possible thirds bacon/chuck/brisket.

Thoughts?


26 lbs beef
4 lbs bacon

(I use my trim up from my cold smoked bacon, created a problem and now just cold smoke thick pieces from the picnic -- I will pull the original recipe I used at the shop later -- Summer time I would make 1200 lbs a week )

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:19 am
by NCPaul
Add some smoked paprika. :D

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:55 am
by JerBear
There's a local restaurant famous for their bacon burgers which is a 50/50 blend but the caveat is that it has to be ordered well done because of the bacon. Precooking it would alleviate that and you could have the bacon in there but still get a rare of medium burger. Not a bad idea...still wondering about the flavor differences between the cooked bacon added to the mix, would you also add the rendered fat?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:00 am
by DiggingDogFarm
Use a bacon that doesn't need to be cooked. :D

I wouldn't add rendered fat.


~Martin

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:43 am
by BriCan
DiggingDogFarm wrote:Use a bacon that doesn't need to be cooked. :D

I wouldn't add rendered fat.


~Martin


Problem being is with my bacon it dose not render fat out :(

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:45 am
by BriCan
JerBear wrote: Not a bad idea...still wondering about the flavor differences between the cooked bacon added to the mix, ?


You will lose some/lot of flavour using cooked bacon

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:47 am
by BriCan
NCPaul wrote:Add some smoked paprika. :D


Its a good idea --- but you need to watch the flavour profile you are trying to atchive -- my thoughts are -- Kis :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:48 pm
by Dogfish
I'd be inclined to think not much more than white pepper or very fine black pepper, and a bit of sugar, and a bunch of salt, would give the best flavour to the patty. Otherwise you could run the risk of burying the flavours or over-mingling them.

There's only one way to find out. Start up the grinder!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:49 pm
by BriCan
Dogfish wrote:I'd be inclined to think not much more than white pepper or very fine black pepper, and a bit of sugar, and a bunch of salt, would give the best flavour to the patty. Otherwise you could run the risk of burying the flavours or over-mingling them.


Black pepper rather than white -- use 32 mesh, no sugar as one normally incorporates it :?: in the bacon cure :?: .

Salt is the big one -- normally on fresh sausage I do 9gm per kg (26 lbs = 110gm salt) with this mix I am down to 40gm for 26 lbs (1.5gm per kg)