A few newbie questions regarding equipment

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A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby shaunRSA » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:01 am

Hi Everyone
I'm a total newbie from South Africa and am so keen to plunge into this hobby.
I am, as a South African, especially keen to start making my own boerewors (plus breakfast sausages and even try making frankfurters) etc :D
I was about to rush out and buy a Kenwood MG450 mincer/ stuffer when I luckily stumbled upon this site.
After reading the forums here, it seems that's it's way better to buy a separate grinder and manual stuffer?
I intend making around 10kg of sausage at a time.

My questions are:
What size mincer (grinder) will do the trick, i.e how powerful should the motor be to get a proper mince going?
Whereas I assume the more powerful the motor the better, I don't want to fork out commercial prices, if a simple home grinder from an appliance store will do the trick.
Would a 5 liter stuffer suffice, and are the vertical ones better?
It seems that stainless steel is the best way to go?
What should I be aware of when buying a stuffer?

A real bonus would be if any South Africans on here could point me in the right direction as to the best places to shop for the equipment :wink:

Thanks again for a really great site.

Shaun
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby Swing Swang » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:41 pm

How much wors are you intending to actually make? And how often?
Personally I'd say get a manual grinder - 10kg really isn't that much to grind in any case - Bolt a size 22 to a plank and cramp it to a bench. Boerwors is a fairly coarse grind in any case so you'll probably only be putting it through the mincer once. Feel free to PM me if you're anywhere close to me.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby kil2k » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:33 pm

Welcome to the forums!

I've got a combined [electric] mincer / stuffer, and it's done me proud. No complaints with it at all for my first hobby kit, and it only cost me around £65. Could be a good way to go until you know it's something you want to continue, and invest in.

I'll be getting a stand-alone stuffer at some point, but I'm in no rush.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby NCPaul » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:18 pm

Here are a couple of links to get you started on finding equipment in South Africa; you'll have to report back on which companies worked out for you so other South Africans will have an easier time. Welcome to the forum. :D

http://www.thebutcherweb.co.za/listing.php?cat=34

http://www.thebutcherweb.co.za/listing.php?cat=38

A dedicated stuffer (I prefer vertical) will be necessary for the size batches you are planning. The grinder you choose will also depend on how often you plan to make sausage.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby shaunRSA » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:52 pm

Thanks for the replies guys. I appreciate it.
I reckon I'll be make sausage about twice a month at least.
Thanks for the links Paul.
Do you think I should stick with the Kenwood then?
Or just go with a manual mincer and separate stuffer?
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby wheels » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:46 pm

Hi Shaun. Welcome.

For what it's worth, I'd go for a separate vertical stuffer every time.

Whilst 20kg a month may not be a massive amount, it's enough to be a nuisance!

I have issues that mean that I need to use a powered mincer/grinder so can't really help there. But, Kenwood are as good a make as any. I have an old Kenwood Chef that has a mincer attachment, which I use for smaller test amounts. There's many second hand ones on the auction websites, so one of those may be an option - that way, you get a machine that will also make bread etc. Just a thought.

Please post back with what you do. I'm sure that it will help others in future.

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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby shaunRSA » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:11 am

Thanks for the advice guys.
I'll think I'll start with a hand mincer and a decent stuffer then.

Paul I'm off to Crown National in Edenvale today, to have a look. I'll let you know what I find, but I think they tend to be more on the commercial products side of things.

Anyone heard of an appliance company called Geepas?
They are quite big in Dubai I think.
Someone here locally is selling their 2800W grinders (new) for R795. (About £38 or $59). That seems incredibly cheap.
Was just wondering if anyone has had experience with this product or company. Could be a good buy.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby shaunRSA » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:21 am

Thanks Wheels.
And thanks for all the advice you dispense on here, it's amazing.
I have struggled to find much in the way of customer reviews for the Kenwood MG450 that I was looking to get, and the ones I did find were not very enamoured with the product.
Maybe they weren't using it properly, I don't know, but it's made me a bit wary of investing in it.
I get your point with the Kenwood Chef and attachments though, it's an amazing machine, but even second hand, they're a bit pricey here.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby shaunRSA » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:27 pm

Paul I found a supplier in Newlands JHB where I get a hand held grinder size 32 for R850 and a stainless steel vertical filler for R2200. They're called Konidaris Catering.
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby NCPaul » Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:53 pm

Great news. Sausage soon. :D
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Re: A few newbie questions regarding equipment

Postby wheels » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Those prices seem very reasonable compared to UK prices.

Enjoy you're sausage-making.

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