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Smoked dry cure

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:44 pm
by tinca
I use the smoked dry cure from this site , but a couple of things just aint right with it,
1: it aint as salty as one would like

2: it aint as smokey as i would like it

So how much salt could i add to increase or add a saltier flavour to the 40gram per kg mix

To add smoke could i use smoke liquid or powder and in what amounts.

I would add i dont like really salty bacon but alittle does make it taste nicer to me, the cure used is to sweet for me :D Gaz

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:05 pm
by Mike D
Hi Gaz,

I used to get my bacon dry cure from the site and found it not smokey enough, so I just used to add a couple of pinches of smoke powder (again from the site) - I wasn't very precise about it though - I should have measured :roll:

Re: Smoked dry cure

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:07 pm
by Ianinfrance
Hi Tinca
tinca wrote:I use the smoked dry cure from this site , but a couple of things just aint right with it,
1: it aint as salty as one would like

2: it aint as smokey as i would like it

So how much salt could i add to increase or add a saltier flavour to the 40gram per kg mix

To add smoke could i use smoke liquid or powder and in what amounts.

I would add i dont like really salty bacon but alittle does make it taste nicer to me, the cure used is to sweet for me :D Gaz


Actually, for most bacon I find it's smoky enough, but for a couple of cures, I wanted to make it smokier. I use liquid smoke, and use it by brushing the bacon after it has formed the pellicule. But I'm sure the dried smoke powder from Franco would work just as well, merely add a little extra to the cure.

I agree with you about the salt. So I added another 10% of salt, mixed it in very carefully, and use the cure at 4.5% instead of 4%. I find it's much better.

HTH.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:16 am
by Paul Kribs
There was some discussion regarding the strength of the smoke powder HERE

Regards, Paul Kribs

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:11 am
by tinca
Cheers for the replies, could you use liquid smoke with the cure ie: at the start of the curing process, if so how would be a starting point :shock: Gaz

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:06 am
by Ianinfrance
Hi,

I don't quite see how to combine liquid smoke with a dry cure. Might work if you brush it on first and then rub with the cure, but I'm uneasy about mixing wet and dry. It happens later anyway, but that's in the safety of (for me) a sealed vacpack.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:44 am
by tinca
Ianinfrance wrote:Hi,

I don't quite see how to combine liquid smoke with a dry cure. Might work if you brush it on first and then rub with the cure, but I'm uneasy about mixing wet and dry. It happens later anyway, but that's in the safety of (for me) a sealed vacpack.


Ello
I am going to vacpack the meat during curing , i was wondering if the liquid smoke might give the meat a more smokey flavour and hold it better if used at the beginning, rather than the end, i was hoping the Ls would be drawn into the meat, you can only try it and see :lol: :lol: Gaz

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:15 pm
by saucisson
I assume you'd only be adding a few ml to the dry cure, I think you'd be OK.

Dave

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:32 am
by tinca
saucisson wrote:I assume you'd only be adding a few ml to the dry cure, I think you'd be OK.

Dave


Yer only a few spirts ,then rub into the meat before the cure goes on :D gaz

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:52 pm
by tinca
well i added some smoke liquid at the beginning and it has given the meat the extra smoke flavour i yerned for, the salt i added has increased its saltyness perhaps alittle to much so next time i will use slightly less ,but its not bad or over salty, its drying in the fidge at the mo and i used an outer slice so that is going to be the saltest bit , will no tomorrow how far its gone through. :D Gaz