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Serrano v Parma

Postby welsh wizard » Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:29 pm

Ok my sausage chums, who can tell me the difference between the two aforementioned hams?
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Postby Spuddy » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:52 am

Serrano is Spanish, Parma is Italian.
Serrano is dryer whereas Parma is more moist.
Serrano has an intense flavour and the colour is a deep pink/red.
Parma has a lighter flavour which has a slightly cheesy aroma due to the pigs being fed on the whey from the Parmesan Cheese making process.
They are both cured traditionally with just sea salt (the natural nitrates in the sea salt producing the pink colour), no other ingredients are allowed.
Both are aged for at least nine months.
Neither are smoked
Both are good.
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Postby welsh wizard » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:04 am

Wow Spuddy

Many thanks for the full reply, much appreciated.

Cheers WW
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Postby aris » Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:09 am

Yes - both are yummy indeed!
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Postby somerset lad » Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:15 pm

I am trying a large hock as a first time go at parma ham with Franco's cure looks good at the moment only day 12 so far. Also doing a Guanciale i have two pork jowls hanging and looking ok. hope it turns out ok. :wink:
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Postby Oddley » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:43 pm

Hi somerset lad

What is Guanciale? Please post the recipe you are using, I would love to see it. Also let us know how it all comes out.
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Postby Spuddy » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:15 pm

Guanciale is an air dried, dry cured cheek (jowl) of pork. The cheek (Guancia in Italian) is cured using the same sort of cure used for pancetta but is coated in cracked black peppercorns and thyme.
It's really a poor man's version of pancetta so you won't find it in any UK supermarket but (as with all Italian "peasant food") is a great ingredient that speaks for itself and will transform any simple dish like pasta carbonara or al'amatriciana into something authentic and memorable.
Sorry, I'm getting a bit carried away here. If you've used it you'll understand.
I've not seen it for so long, I had a pig's head to use recently and it didn't cross my mind to make Guanciale! DOH!!!! :roll: Gutted!!!!!
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Postby Franco » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:11 am

Everything you need to know about guanciale

http://127.0.0.1:4664/cache?event_id=47 ... Xbb6l4wlgM
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Postby aris » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:40 am

That link won't work Franco - it is pointing to your local host.
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Postby Oddley » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:47 am

Franco LOL

[Start joking]
127.0.0.1 is my own local ip address. Why would I find the info on my own computer on port 4664...
:shock: :roll: :D [/Stop Joking]
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Postby Franco » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:39 am

try this instead

www.themorningnews.org/archives/how_to/ ... e_cure.php

I used Google's desktop search to find it and presumed it would send you to the direct link....obviously not.


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Postby Oddley » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:43 am

Cheers Franco.

Ahh the eternal question, Russian roulette or use nitrates. That was an interesting read. Just goes to show, well known chefs know as little as the rest of us.
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