Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby GUS » Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:37 pm

Thanbks for the info DM, ..how did it fare for 6 months in a ziplok type bag? ..any degradation / sweating /dryness? I wouldn't have thought it would appreciate a plastic bag, ..looks like i'm way off the mark though!

Have got mine double wrapped in new paper sweetie bags.
got to get some heads round this & work out a more efficient transfer, last thing we can be doin is actually peeling cloves individually, unless there's a way of moistening them temporarily to make smoke adhere more thoroughly that will seal itself to a degree?

liquid sugar on clove then smoke?
(yeah, ...I know) :shock:
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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby derekmiller » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:14 am

GUS wrote:liquid sugar on clove then smoke?
(yeah, ...I know) :shock:

Dont knock it, thats how the wheel was invented...... :lol:

No degradation or anything, it was as good as when bought. I was surprised myself. It was just left on the kitchen shelf.
I am not going down the peeling cloves route, but will research some more on how its done professionally. I must admit I have never purchased a smoked garlic bulb, so dont have anything to compare to. I will say that this bulb was tight, perhaps next time i will break it open a bit more.
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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby GUS » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:19 am

Ah, good point!

I smoked one open & one closed bulb based on what looked good & to see that difference myself (but had forgotten till you mentioned it).

Sadly though, I went straight for the open bulb (visible chasm so theoretically a good entry point for smoke) & that is the one I am so dissappointed with.

How many typical leaf layers are there on a commercially sold bulb? ..genus dependent of course!? ..my non identifiable Lidl Garlics from china (I usually don't buy food product from across the world but this was experimenting based on price point, but otherwise an inexcuseable lapse on my part, all those unnecessary food miles etc.

I "think" I counted 3 layers of outer skin prior to soft garlic for use in the cloves we cooked with on this occasion.

will try a liquid honey spray (if I can find a nozzle that'll handle it), got to think of likely mould inhibitors along the way.

We'll pick this up when I remember it (brain isn't as it should be).
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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby wheels » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:33 am

Maybe it's just a lack of time? See:

http://www.richardsonssmokehouse.co.uk/process.html

Garlic Bulbs are smoked for ten days to produce a wonderful subtle flavour.


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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby GUS » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:47 am

Ah so that's where i've been going wrong on my stilton (thanks wheels) & i'll have to use the big guns (not the csg for another garlic 'speriment.

Wow the colour on that cheese, tremendous.

off topic, yesterday I could resist no longer & pulled a wedge of dark brown smoke-hammered edam out, taken further than i've ever done before (finished in January), tried some cold & straight out of the fridge, (ok dulled & not as it should be, but it was excellent for a 1 degree c fridged cheese).

Plonked it on the worktop to "sit", went back hours later, wife had bunged it back in fridge! :roll: ...got it out again, grabbed cheese slicer & took it to bed "ahem" ...sat it by the alarm ready for the morning, phenomonal, seems that at a certain point of smoke penetration (maybe turned to edible leather) it will hold flavour & texture regardless of basic temperature!?

The edam was akin to the colour of those slabs of 6 day cheese from your link Wheels, ..beautiful, I was majorly impressed, now wish to get this large smoker / bbq sorted & get on with a weeks burn on some more stilton, (sucker for punishment).

Ah man that edam, I need to take some to my local GP to explain away a request for some statins :mrgreen:
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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby derekmiller » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:26 am

So what we are saying is: 2 x 8hr sessions with a csg isnt good enough. :(
I pulled the rest of the bulb apart last night, no smoky cloves, but 5 have sprouted. If I plant them out would they come up half smoked...... :lol:
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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby wheels » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:59 pm

derekmiller wrote:So what we are saying is: 2 x 8hr sessions with a csg isnt good enough. :(

It appears so.

derekmiller wrote:...If I plant them out would they come up half smoked...... :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Would appreciate your input "fundraising with smoke"

Postby GUS » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:16 pm

Trying out the mixed nuts & seeds smoked suggestion this week. (time allowing)
can anyone point me to smoke times & recipes for nuts (other than smoked almonds).

Itching to finish off the barrel smoker / bbq as I managed to get hold of 12kg of restaurant charcoal for £5 yesterday, itching to use some on some ribs. ..guess the weber will have to be used.
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