Commercial Burger Recipe Required

[aris]

With regards to peanuts - i'd be VERY VERY worried about people with peanut allergies. I would make it very very clear that your food contains peanuts.

The UK has one of the highest incidents of peanut allergies in the world - and not just the upset stomach type of allergy - usually the reaction leads to anaphylactic shock and death unless you get to a hospital quickly.

To be honest, peanuts are best avoided for any commercial venture.

[saucisson]

A VERY good point Aris.

[johnc]

Don't they put chocolate in chili con carne !

I think you're referring to mole poblano which is a Mexican sauce made from chocolate and an assortment of different herbs and spices. Usually prepared with chicken.
Chili con carne as we know it originated in Texas and is the official dish of the state. It was originally just beef stewed with chilis but has since developed many variants adding any combination of tomatoes,corn,okra etc.I've seen beer in some recipes but so far no chocolate

[markgadd]

Chili con carne (evil stuff).

I'm sure I watched a tv chef put chocolate in?

[saucisson]

and coffee as well as chocolate, not that I'm suggesting that those are authentic ingredients.

dave

[markgadd]

If you put peanut butter in your burgers other than the nut allegy sufferers ,but also the uneducated "Macdonalds" masses who think there burger is pure unadulterated meat won't try them because they my be dare I say edible,let's face it burger chains say they use pure beef but don't say what part of the animal they use or how they butcher ie mechanically recovered meat,lovely.

[sausagemaker]

Mechanically recovered beef has been illegal for a long time & any mechanically recovered meat cannot be counted towards the meat content so therefore it is not used in the UK at least.
As for the meat Macdonald's & Burger King use it is forequarter & flank with very little fat due to there cooking method

Just because we don't like something does not automatically mean there is something wrong with it

Regards
Sausagemaker

[Spuddy]

Sausagemaker's right, the two big burger chains use quality beef in their burgers (I favour the flame grilled one personally) and they'd be dumb to do otherwise. AND they ARE 100% beef except for seasonings like salt and pepper (so 99.9% if anyone's prepared to be pedantic).
It's the road side snack vans that you've got to watch, some use good patties but a lot of them use some very questionable (although I'm sure still legal) examples of a burger that taste very little of beef at all.

I've gotta try Wallies Beef and Peanut butter recipe though, that sounds good.

[markgadd]

Apologies .
I always thought it was eyes and ears and other bits that went in to mac burgers.

If you have a nut allegy are you allergic to all nuts to the same extent, says he who can't have lucazade

[aris]

Most people with a nut allergy avoid all nuts - though in reality they are only alergic to some nuts. Technically a peanut is not a nut - it is a legume, but for a peanut allergy person to even have the most minute amount of nut can mean almost certain death. As there can often be cross contamination of nuts during processing it is best to avoid them all.

For instance, if you handled a peanuts earlier in the day, shook hands with someone with a peanut allergy and they handled some other food which they then ate - they may well get an allergic reaction - it is that severe - no joke at all. People have been known to keel over dead from a simple kiss on the cheek, or a simple curry sauce with nuts in it (tikka masala usually has almonds for instance).

Two kids in my sons class have peanut allergies, and we know scores of others. It is no laughing matter. If i knew that a burger joint had nuts in their burgers, i'd avoid it like the plague - even though my kids do not have a nut allergy. When it comes to easter time we only buy guaranteed nut-free chocolate eggs (Kinnertons brand) - purely because one of his nut allergy mates may come around and eat some chocolate.

Parents of kids with nut allergies carry Epi-pens which are basically syringes of adrenaline which you stab into the thigh of someone in anaphalactic shock - this gives them about 15 minutes of life until they can get to hospital (they do multiple doses - so you can hopefully extend that to 30 or 45 minutes).

Something to think about!

[saucisson]

"Two kids in my sons class have peanut allergies, and we know scores of others. It is no laughing matter."

I hope no one was suggesting it was ...

[Lance Yeoh]

Peanut allergy....hmmm don't seem to hear much about those here, sometimes I wonder why? Don't even know people who are lactose intolerent in fact. Is it a genetic thingy?

[Fallow Buck]

Been there myself on the allergies and it isn't a fun experience...

After too many shots of Hydroquartezone (sp?) in 10 days I decided to see a specialist, and Zirtec cleared it up. About two years later I had some colleagues that had fresh tuna for lunch, and started displaying early symptoms at the desk. I gave them the Zirtek each and they only spent 4-5 hrs in the hospital. Others that didn't take the pills spent nearly 3 days in the hospital before they were released.

Apparently if Tuna is roughly handled when gaught, (specifically if it is hit with an object) it produces Histamine naturally. When eaten especially a bit rare, massive allergic reactions can occur.

Sorry for hijacking the Thread but I thought it was relevent the way the discusssion has gone.

Rgds,
FB

[aris]

Peanut allergy....hmmm don't seem to hear much about those here, sometimes I wonder why? Don't even know people who are lactose intolerent in fact. Is it a genetic thingy?

There are lots of theories - but no firm answers. The UK has one of the highest numbers of nut allergies (specifically peanut) in the world. This apparently only came to light after WW2 when american GI's introduced the local populace to the wonders of peanut butter (unheard of in the UK before - peanuts are native to North America). On the other hand, there has been a recent surge of these types of allergies (by recent I mean the past 20-30 years) - so I doubt it is purely genetic.

The most promising theory with allergies in general have to do with our environment - it has become too clean and our immune systems are not geared to dealing with it. Allergic reactions are auto-immune responses after all.

Aris

[Epicurohn]

A buddy of mine just came in from New York City where he ate the best "hamburger ever". The menu argued the patties were made with a hand mold and out of USDA Prime Sirloin. No wonder they cost $30.00 each.


David