CSG and any (hardwood)sawdust

Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:45 am

saucisson wrote:I don't have time to check as I'm going out but I have an idea that yew is poisonous and must not be used to smoke. I'll get back t you on that. Dave


Thanks for the reminder Dave, yes I think you are right, best avoid that, plenty of better ones available.

The other one that I am not sure about is if the turkey oak can be used like common oak, so I shall give that a miss, I think, till I run out of the other more certain ones.
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Postby wheels » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:40 pm

I think that the CSG oak from Macs is from Germany originally - so some form of European oak - if that helps?

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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:15 pm

wheels wrote: The bulk pack from Mac's works out at 40p (ish) per smoke - it hardly breaks the bank!

I've just been looking at Mac's site again and the "large" pack says enough for 50 hours for £4.35ex, which is nearer £1ish for a 10hr smoke, have I missed a "bulk" pack ?
or am I having a brain failure

I dont know what varieties of oak grow in Germany !
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Postby wheels » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:28 pm

It's Mac's website - it has you going all over the place! But I found it here:

http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/OrderEurope.html

12kg for £50 delivered. Oops, I missed the vat (sorry! :oops: ), so £58.75 for 12kg.

I make one full smoke to be 100g (0.1kg).

So 12 / 0.1 = 120 full smokes.

£58.75 / 120 = 49p per smoke. (inc vat)

I guess it depends whether you want (or can get permission from the household authorities!) to spend £50 on sawdust! :wink: :lol:
HTH

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Oh Pooh! I've just noticed that it's only for Europe - perhaps Mac will explain why? I hate to have to be not nice and say nasty things if he's not going to do the same deal here! :lol:
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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:37 pm

wheels wrote:It's Mac's website - it has you going all over the place!
Yep, sure do, I know we are now in the EU, but seems not yet in Europe
Macs wrote:Only available to the following countries...
Belgium, France , Germany, Luxemburg, The Netherlands, Austria, Denmark
:(

I was looking in the English section
I know we are about to cooperate with France militarily but to have to emigrate to do a cheap smoke is , err,,,

wheels wrote:I guess it depends whether you want (or can get permission from the household authorities!) to spend £50 on sawdust! :wink: :lol:
HTH
LOL indeed, I think not, she still wants that 60ft of 2ft dia Turkey Oak shifted from where it rests !
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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:38 pm

We crossed in the post !
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Postby wheels » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:39 pm

I've just noticed that Macs dealer Smoking BBQ does a 6 x 500g pack for £24.99 inc. VAT with Free Delivery:

http://www.smokingbbq.co.uk/product/Smo ... 001VARIETY

But that still puts UK buyers at a disadvantage. What about it Mac?

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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:44 pm

wheels wrote:I've just noticed that Macs dealer Smoking BBQ does a 6 x 500g pack for £24.99 inc. VAT with Free Delivery:

http://www.smokingbbq.co.uk/product/Smo ... 001VARIETY

But that still puts UK buyers at a disadvantage. What about it Mac?

HTH

Thats even more confusing cos on the Macs site the variety pack is
1 x ProQ™ Variety Pack Wood Dust

6 single use packs (1 of each wood type)

£5.70 (Excl VAT) - FREE SHIPPING


which is back to £1 a smoke
My head hurts, I'm off for a stiff whisky ,,,,
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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:22 pm

wheels wrote:I've just noticed that Macs dealer Smoking BBQ does a 6 x 500g pack for £24.99 inc. VAT with Free Delivery:
http://www.smokingbbq.co.uk/product/Smo ... 001VARIETY
Where did you see 6x500g ?
All I see is
1 x Large pack of each wood variety.
£21.27
£24.99 inc. VAT
and below it describes 6 wood types

I dont like these "large" and "up to 50" type adverts , a bit of nitty gritty and simple presentation without all the graphics and "also boughts" would bring clarity, especially when one is on dialup :( "Large bag of manure 50p" is often seen by the roadside, well large to me is what our 3 pigs produce, and that fills a field :)
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Postby ArtL » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:06 pm

wheels wrote:I think that the CSG oak from Macs is from Germany originally - so some form of European oak - if that helps?
Phil
Your link to smokingbbq produced this :
Oak - The Queen of smoking wood. RED OAK is good on ribs. Good with red meat, pork, fish and heavy game.
Well Red Oak is a common name for the N.American oak Quercus rubra.
not to be confused with our native Pedunculate (Q. robur) and Sessile (Q. petraea) oaks
But I still dont know what the Germans do :)
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Postby wheels » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:41 pm

I may be mis-informed, but I understood that Mac used Ashwoods products. In which case they (Ashwood) told me that their oak was from Germany.

I'm hoping that Mac will reply for himself. However, given the costs of other smoking processes, he ain't exactly ripping you off.

The cost to run a CSG is minimal even if you buy the wood in small quantities, and all the woods are the same price - which means that the 'luxury' ones are a cheap product.

If you don't believe me, look at the cost of cold smoking in a Bradley.

I guess that you've never tried to cold smoke with the alternatives? Outside in the rain every couple of hours, freezing cold, and cussin' like a trooper.

No thanks, I'll stick with my low cost CSG. Even at the price for small packs, it's cheaper than many alternatives and the cost savings make it well worth while. (OK, that's poetic licence as I buy in bulk!).

You could always arrange for a courier to pick up a sack for you from a bulk supplier.

However, I'm still hoping that Mac, a forum member, will offer the EU deal to UK members.

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Postby ArtL » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:55 am

>xactly ripping you off.

I dont think I acused him of that !

>The cost to run a CSG is minimal even if you buy the wood in small quantities,

Agreed

>I guess that you've never tried to cold smoke with the alternatives? Outside in the rain every couple of hours, freezing cold, and cussin' like a trooper.

:) no I have not

>However, I'm still hoping that Mac, a forum member, will offer the EU deal to UK members.

Us too
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Postby wheels » Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:02 pm

I've PM'd him to draw his attention to this thread.

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Postby probbq » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:57 pm

Sorry for all the confusion, my head also hurts.
I will definitly be doing a "bulk pack" for the UK, but it'll have to wait until Monday, when I'm at my computer with all site files on.
The Oak does come from Germany... I'll try to find out exactly which species it is on Monday too.

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Postby wheels » Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:10 pm

Ian

As always, you are a gent.

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