Fermentation/Drying Rooms..

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Fermentation/Drying Rooms..

Postby freeranger » Thu May 12, 2011 10:11 am

Morning all,

first post - so please be nice :-)

We have a on-farm butchery, processing our own free range pigs for a few years now. We have also done a bit of salami and chorizo, drying them in buildings etc when the temperature permits. We're now looking to expand this and do it 'properly' shall we say!

So, I'm just wondering if anyone out there has built their own fermentation/drying rooms and if so what does it consist of in terms of controls etc? I've looked at commercial solutions but unless I win the lottery this week that's out of bounds...
We do have plenty of buildings - stone barns/sheds etc so I just need a bit of advice if possible.
Thanks in advance, this looks like a really great forum!

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Postby ben.mcgeever » Thu May 12, 2011 3:03 pm

I have roughly a 10' x 10' room in my house that I control temp and humidity (58degF, 80% RH) I use a large customized aircon unit and a home built humidifier.
As its all home built Ive spent quite a bit fixing it over time and keeping it working.

If I started from scratch today I wouldn't mess around so much, I would buy:

large thru wall aircon unit
Coolbot http://www.storeitcold.com/
Humidifier http://www.storeitcold.com/

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Postby freeranger » Fri May 13, 2011 5:08 am

that's great info, many thanks.

does the aircon give you the right amount of airflow then?

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Postby Jogeephus » Fri May 13, 2011 5:51 am

The best advice I can give you would be to get to know some of the maintenance and service people at the large grocery chains. You will be amazed at what they end up junking. If you are patient and get to know the right people you will find that a lot of the stuff you need is cumbersome bulky junk to them and they are happy to let you take it off their hands and save them the cost of carrying it to a landfill. Also, some of the better junk/surplus is often sold at grocery auctions. It will pay you to find out who does this and visit a few.

I process deer to fund my charcuterie hobby. I was given about 60 freezer panels and doors if I moved them out of a grocery store within two days. They didn't have to ask me twice and I had them gone in a day. These panels is what I used to construct my curing chamber/cooler/freezer.

I really like how energy efficient these panels are. To cool it I found a junked 2 ton air conditioner unit and married this to a junked 2 fan cooling unit. With this setup I can use it as a freezer or a curing chamber.

Here is how it fit together.
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Here is the inside fan unit. This was junked as well but it only needed a few drops of oil on a fan bearing and a little prodding and it worked just fine.

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I cool it with a 2 ton Trane air conditioner unit that was also a junker. Needed a new relay which I robbed from another junker. Since these two units aren't exactly meant to work together it took a little modification and experimentation with freon pressures to get it running properly. Also had to add a bypass and another relay to keep the fans from blowing all the time.

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This is the finished chamber/cooler/freezer. To control the humidity I use a home humidifier. If I want it really high I just spray the concrete with water first then let the home humidifier maintain this humidity. In all I have about $300 in this unit.

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For a fermentation chamber I picked up a bread retarder at a grocery auction for $150.(Stainless steel box on right in picture above) It needed a new plug. I use a small space heater inside hooked to a thermostat and also put a humidifier or spray it down with water and hang wet towels. It also rolling carts which can be rolled into the retarder. Sausages can be hung on smoke sticks on these carts and rolled into the doors of the retarder.(one of the carts can be seen by the door) I think the thermostat cost about $60. So in all I have about $210 in this box and its capable of handling more meat than I can think about fermenting in any two days AND it can also be used to age sides of beef or two whole deer or simply as something to keep the mince chilled in.

I still have a ways to go before I get where I hope to but I assure you I wouldn't be this far if I had not learned that there are very few people out there that really want the type equipment and supplies that you and I would pay dearly for so when we recognize this fact and exercise patience - we don't have to.

I hope this was helpful and good luck.
Patience please, I'm just trying to get on the learning curve.
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Postby saucisson » Fri May 13, 2011 10:53 am

Wow!! I mean Wow!!! :)
Curing is not an exact science... So it's not a sin to bin.

Great hams, from little acorns grow...
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Postby freeranger » Fri May 13, 2011 1:13 pm

that, has really left me quite speechless..... :o

Talk about inspiration!

thanks for sharing

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so, what if you don't have an enormous barn to build in...

Postby Canada Joe » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:07 pm

I live in downtown Toronto and actually happen to have a Garage, which is rare enough for this area. I'm just getting started and I'm trying to build my drying cabinet.

The range of ideas I have seen on this site and many others are essentially:

1- Buy a 2nd hand fridge and modify it (door open/temp controls/humidity controls)
2 - Build an incredibly cool walk in freezer/ drying room that looks like its bigger than my garage
3 - Just let nature dictate the temperature and accept the fluctuations (In Canada this would be a Spring/Fall option only)

From that set of options in a small space the fridge seems like the obvious choice, but it also seems like the wrong starting point. The point of a fridge is to make things cold, dry and to seal it off from the air. We want circulating air, only slightly cooler than room temperature (12-15c) and normal humidity.

Has anyone tried building a box with some basic insulation and putting a thermoelectric cooling device or two in the box? Or using a small air conditioning unit attached to the box?

Second question is: Has any tried using an air purifier to remove dust and other particles from their air rotation? I know there are some requirements for yeast spores in the air in a bakery which I guess an air purifier may adversely affect, but does the same principle apply to curing meat?

Thanks in advance.
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