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¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:00 am
by EnriqueB
Hi, new member from Spain. I started making fresh sausage a few months ago with a Kenwood attachment but soon, after reading this forum and other places, turned to a small vertical stuffer --only after my wife threatened me to leave if I asked her again to help me stuffing with that attachment from hell :D

Living in a small apartment curing or smoking is not yet feasible, but hope I will be able to do it in the future.

I must say that I am surprised at the lack of quality information about sausage making in Spanish. Though having a charcuterie tradition (chorizos, morcillas, longanizas...) it seems the DIY sausage movement has not really started here. I could not find a single web page or modern book in spanish dealing with this topic. So I resorted to books & websites in English. I already had Ruhlmann (realize it has its critics), then I got excellent information from books like Marianski&Marianski (which I bought following recommendations here) or Modernist Cuisine. What I am missing now is more local information about meat cuts (quartering conventions are quite different between countries, and sometimes it's hard to come up with the translation of a given cut) and recipes, but I'm getting info from my butchers little by little :)

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:26 am
by NCPaul
Welcome to the forum. :D There are several fans of Spanish sausages on this site. I've been told that the cuts to use for Spanish sausages are the collar (aguja), belly (panceta), and the jowl (papada).

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:29 pm
by EnriqueB
Thanks for the welcome & info, NCPaul! My butcher told me he often uses collar, so I'm trying it for my next batch instead of the shoulder I've been using.

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:37 pm
by NCPaul
Try using all three. The jowls and belly will help to provide the necessary fat content. The collar is not much different than the shoulder (in the US the shoulder comes with part of the collar).

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:55 pm
by vagreys
I agree there is very little out there. I have found one Latin American Spanish book on sausage making, but it is not about Latin American sausages - just the standards from other cuisines. A member of this forum is publishing a book on Spanish charcuterie, within the 12 months. See here: http://forum.sausagemaking.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10897

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:21 pm
by onewheeler
¡Hola! Enrique,

I could not find a single web page or modern book in spanish dealing with this topic.
Here's a link to a Spanish web page dealing with charcuterie... http://ileychorizos.tripod.com/index.html

And welcome!

Martin/

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:29 pm
by Dogfish
Welcome!

There's a recipe for txistorra on here somewhere that links through to a Spanish site. I've also had good results on Youtube using language-based searches and looking for stuff close to national boundaries to take advantage of overlap (Portugal for Spain etc).

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:34 am
by EnriqueB
NCPaul wrote:Try using all three. The jowls and belly will help to provide the necessary fat content. The collar is not much different than the shoulder (in the US the shoulder comes with part of the collar).

Sure! Only that I have some "tocino" (fatback?) ibérico frozen from last batch that I want to use as fat, in next batches I'll try the jowls.

About the belly, I understand it is a soft fat with a low melting point and that makes it not the best choice for sausage? Should it be used in a low proportion and completely frozen before grinding?

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:36 am
by EnriqueB
vagreys wrote:I agree there is very little out there. I have found one Latin American Spanish book on sausage making, but it is not about Latin American sausages - just the standards from other cuisines. A member of this forum is publishing a book on Spanish charcuterie, within the 12 months. See here: http://forum.sausagemaking.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10897

Thanks vagreys, I've been following that thread and a similar one from the authors in eGullet. Looks great, looking forward for the book release!

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:45 am
by EnriqueB
onewheeler wrote:¡Hola! Enrique,

I could not find a single web page or modern book in spanish dealing with this topic.
Here's a link to a Spanish web page dealing with charcuterie... http://ileychorizos.tripod.com/index.html

And welcome!

Martin/

Thanks Martin! I didn't know the page. Definitively in Spanish language but from a latin american source --not bad, of course, but cut standards and some terms are quite different from the ones used in Spain :)

Maybe I should qualify: there are some books, of course (I own a couple) and some web pages, but I find they are low quality, mostly recipes without any mention whatsoever to good technique, or with a pretty "old" focus, or not thinking in the home maker....

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:52 am
by EnriqueB
Dogfish wrote:Welcome!

There's a recipe for txistorra on here somewhere that links through to a Spanish site.


Found it! Very useful, thank you!

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:26 pm
by saucisson
hello

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:02 am
by BriCan
Greetings;

I do not know if the following will be of any help to you but is worth a look


http://www.sossai.net/salumi/salumicasalinghi.htm

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:05 pm
by DanMcG
Welcome to the forums EnriqueB

Re: ¡Hola!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:47 pm
by wheels
Hi EnriqueB, welcome.

I don't speak Spanish, so would be most grateful if you'll share any findings here. (hint, hint!)

Phil